particularly in states like ohio, florida, ohio -- >> dana: nevada. >> andrea: same thing, nevada. ohio fewer dems voted in ohio compared to 2008. 30,000 more republicans have voted. if obama had that lead with mccain and long at 2008, but only led by three points with likely voters romney leads the likely voters by five points. he won bison overall. if you look at the same panorama, it's all over. >> bob: in reality, you talk about the final vote in 2008 versus a week left to go to vote. people who vote early. you have to separate absenteeism from early voting. two separate things. people who vote early are senior citizens and they normally do. >> andrea: who leads with senior citizens? mitt romney leads. >> bob: right. >> andrea: independent and women. 3-point turnout advantage this time around swayed ten points to -- >> bob: you are taking something on election day when they did the count and doing seven things out. >> andrea: same exact date. 'canes is a political roundup, can we get to eric? >> eric: obama campaign, my opinion is in shambles. look what david axelrod had to do